[9] It had also been parodied by the BBC Scotland television comedy series Rab C. Nesbitt, with Wine Alley and the wider Govan area the stated setting for the show, though episodes were seldom filmed there. My Aunt and Uncle Kathleen and Tommy Blacker lived in 6 Rathlin Street, Govan. 11 a.m.-8 p.m. Monday . I cleaned it up and he must have been watching, as he came back out to see if I had done well. I learned then that Govan as I knew it had obviously changed (the three picture houses were gone) but was still a thriving community. I was born in 1946 at 16 Elderpark Street, I had 3 brothers; Harry, Robert and Ronnie, we all went to Greenfield Primary school, Harry and Robert also went to Govan High School and we also went to 168th Boys Brigade and lifeboys. I always thought it was a listed building. And increase their/your revenues. These were not cleared until well into the 1970s. I didn't open my mouth, I was sure I was going to jail. Burnside, 42, known as the Godfather, lived on the top-floor flat of his tenement. I was born Jan 6th 1951 and brought up in flat above Co-op in Helen Street at Govan Cross, I Went to Harmony Row and Hills Trust Primary schools before moving to Pollok when I was 10 .I have 4 brothers Dave, Bobby, Shuggie, all born in Govan ..and Alastair born in Pollok. [24], Despite these developments, there were numerous older buildings around Govan until quite recently, most notably the terraces and tenements situated around Govan Road. Dry Docks Cafe. I remember two days before we left in 1963, I took her to the Govan Fair, and that was the last one I ever saw. SC 020951 So, has Glasgow and other cities always been in the hands of comprehensive planners who take an overview of all the parties involved? From terrace proud to alley base I know thee as my mother's face. I used to go to Jack's Bakers on a Saturday morning for a dozen rolls and half a dozen teabread and I still got change from a half a crown (12.5 pence), happy days! If there is anyone out there that remembers me please contact me :). I was born in Broomloan Road by the pot heid (TSB) bank which is still there. Does anyone remember my dad Iain Campbell and mother Margaret Marshall born 1921 and 1922? Today the area is policed from bright new shiny offices opposite Bellahouston Park on Helen Street. I remember your family at 100 Harmony Row, my cousin Maisie McAlinden was friendly with the family also my Granny, or as she was better known, MAW Austin, hence I was bettter known a Joe Austin. However, in 1989 the same area was one of the most crime-ridden and deprived in Scotland. Used to jump the dykes with my brother Kenneth. Situated south of the River Clyde and part of the former Burgh of Govan, it was colloquially referred to as 'Wine Alley' during the mid-to-late 20th century when a housing scheme with a rough reputation was sited there. Yup I'll always be from Govan even though we lived a bus ride with the messages away from it in Shieldhall, that was situated near to the 50 pitches, I remember well my Dad and me watching the shipyards football competitions. @AlanJParks" I went to Hills Trust primary and can remember having to sit my 11 plus exam and passed by the skin of my teeth (lots of mental arithmetic). Great memories. It is important that we continue to promote these adverts as our local businesses need as much support as possible during these challenging times. JEFF TORRINGTON Singing: No, No, Yuppie, Yuppie NO! During the late 19th century, the population of Govan increased more than tenfold: from 9,000 in 1864 to 95,000 by 1907. Around this time a second surveillance was being carried out on Burnside and three members of his team who had travelled to Liverpool in another car. Town officials arranged for the deepening of the Clyde in 1759, the reclamation of the channels between the islands (The Whyte Inch, The Black Inch, and The King's Inch), and the construction of quays and docks. He also complained about the abusive term Wine Alley, which was always quoted by officialdom whenever Moorepark scheme came under discussion Next thing I know, this policeman appeared, he looked like a giant and he asked me what was I doing. I lived in Elderpark Street and the Wine Alley. The wine in the Wine Alley nickname was not expensive red and whites like Beaujolais and merlot. It was a them and us attitude that persisted right up until the Wine Alley was demolished in the late 1990s. I attended Harmony Row School and Hills Trust Primary. The School that was situated at the end of Cowie Street was the "Wee Lamby" or Lambhill Junior Primary. Best people you could meet. Mum married and moved to Whiteinch as a child and I remember going across on the ferry to Govan, Anyone recall my mum? 125m Harley's ice cream parlour . Introduction The first, Moorepark Grounds, was situated to the north of the mansion from the early 1900s and made way for the housing development;[12] the second (New Moore Park, opened in 1929) was to the south-west of the neighbourhood off Edmiston Drive[12] and had fallen into some disrepair before being replaced by a business park at the turn of the 21st century, with the club moving to new facilities at Shieldhall after some years of uncertainty.[13][14]. I was born 23 Elder Street, Govan in 1943. Jocelyn Square. Pipe Band. At the time DS Jackson said: These two cops were the real heroes and were at high risk. We used to listen to all the records being played from Munleys on a Saturday morning. I went to Greenfield then Govan High left school in 1975 and worked in Govan shipyard canteen my mates wee Calum McLean, Brian Lavoury, Billy Cameron, Tam Reid, Jim Reynolds and Stephen Gourley now living in England. My mam would love to know. Fond memories include falling in the Elder Park pond and breaking my collar bone, trying to do the fish and chips, building gang huts in the air-raid shelters and raking the middens. Related Pages. When the sirens went for everyone to go to their shelters, our grandfather had to come and help her take us to St. Anthony's school (our shelter). James and Catherine moved to Govan from Ireland and lived on Victoria (Neptune) Street and Langlands Road. I used to go there with my Mum to Woolworths, they had shoe shops and everything you wanted. dealing, drug abuse, and money lending had flourished in a big way since 1975, which only added to the schemes wretchedness. When we moved to Nitshill in 1060, I realised how much I had loved Govan. [4] In 1864, Govan gained burgh status, and was the fifth-largest burgh in Scotland. The people of Govan didn't often use a vet, but came into the shop with their poorly pets and we all fussed over them, cuddled them, nursed them and Jackie recommended and administered patent pet medicines like Bob Martins. At the time, it was the fifth largest burgh in Scotland and contained within its boundaries, the areas of Plantation, Cessnock, Ibrox, Craigton and Drumoyne. He stayed in Nethen Street and was born in 1931. The authorities plan for the scheme started going wrong when they decided (without consulting the locals who lived in Govan) to house it mainly with outsiders or people who came from areas other than Govan. Curtis Govan, 23, was convicted in July of rape, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, aggravated indecent assault, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, simple assault, resisting arrest,. For Margaret Gibson - I saw that you lived in Kintra Street until 1960 and wondered if you knew my grandmother Mary McGill/Johnston who lived at 110 Kintra Street in 1956. Pagini similare. I married in Glasgow, Scotland in 1974 and emigrated to Canada that same year, I have lived in Canada ever since. He lived on Govan Road. However, people striving to improve their existing environment have limited freedom to act independently. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's Community organisation. 5 Smith, 1992, p. 4 I am looking for the name of a barbers shop that was on Langlands Road at Helen street end. First, this fosters connectedness seen in social capital and enhanced trust in government and in fellow citizens. Built in the early 1930s by the 1970s the Wine Ally had developed a fearsome reputation, the council \"modernised\" it and tried to reintroduce the original name Moorepark but after 40 years of being the Wine Alley most people forgot about or even knew that the Wine Ally was originally called Moorepark and did not approve of the name Moorepark and continued to call it Wine Alley. Once the area had gained a bad reputation (through no fault of its own), this was picked up by Govans local newspaper, The Govan Press, who furthered the image in a relentlessly aggressive campaign against the inhabitants until even the authorities began to believe it too. 'Wine Alley', Govan Pop: 10,875 (whole ward) Problems: Mainly drug-related crime. First, if the government are to tackle inequality and the centring of disadvantaged groups, then they will have to understand that it is the housing system itself that creates it. 6 Would love to hear from you. 100m D.C Hair&Beauty . I was born in 1961. Contact. Readers comments: You are personally liable for the content of any comments you upload to this website, so please act responsibly. Glasgow Green Flagstones at Jocelyn Square in front of the McLennan Arch inform us that this was the site of public executions in the city until 1865. We went back to Govan until we could get passage, and I attended Bellahouston Academy. Within 10 years, Glasgow Corporations repair and maintenance service to the area had declined noticeably because the Corporation was simply not interested. They also discovered in the early days that one gang member was driving about in hired cars. Then the area - close to Rangers home at Ibrox - had a reputation for deprivation and poverty having been built in the 1930s to relieve overcrowding in the Gorbals. In 1975 the sociologist Sean Damer went to live for six months in Britain's most notorious housing scheme, Moorepark, or as it was known to all The Wine Alley' of Govan in Glasgow. Not Now. Socialites Karrueche Tran, left, and Christina Milian attend the Los Angeles premiere of Fox's 'Empire' at ArcLight Cinemas Cinerama Dome on January 6, 2015 in Hollywood, California. Get directions. In sum, effective participatory urban management calls for a fundamental rethink from all the players involved, from the local authorities and development agencies, through local (and sometimes international) non-governmental organisations, to the community-based organisations themselve; in redefining their roles and relationships, if something is to be done for the benefit of all. Email: enquiries@gblink.org.uk , www.gblink.org.uk 4 Markus, 1993, p. 161 The first trade I learnt was stealing and gambling yet it seemed normal to all of us as children. Full of great memories. I personally don't have any memories of Govan although I'm sure I visited family who were living there many years ago in the late sixties. :bbpd: My maternal grandfather was a master brass moulder in the shipyards. Great memories of Summertown Road baths. If his western city is invariably "smoky" and even hellish in aspect, throughout his poem "Edinburgh" the Scottish capital is glimpsed "high in . In recent years it has seen major improvements with the building of Glasgow Science Centre and the Glasgow Arc, better known as the Squinty Bridge. Linthouse and Parkgrove were 19th century senior sides, who fell into decline and are now defunct. [34], Alexander Stephen and Sons also established a shipyard in nearby Linthouse in 1870. Zobrazi viac od Sunny Govan Memories na Facebooku. He also allowed naval officers in training to visit the shipyard to familiarise themselves with the new vessels. The Catholic Church that was located in Stanley Street was I believe the largest Catholic Church in Glasgow and at one time had 5 resident Priests. (was it Grant's????? This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. Govan Old Parish Church was rebuilt in 1762, 1826, and again 1884-1888. I was born in 23 McGregor Street Teucharhill in 1962 and remember my mum waiting until the last minute and getting a lift to the polling station, promising to vote for whichever party candidate provided the transport (aye right) still though when the 70s arrived I would have voted for the blonde wummin shouting through a megaphone at the end of the street even though I'd no idea what she was on about or what party she represented, she was a bit of a belter called Margo MacDonald. Lived in Georgia where our second daughter was born, and then onto Texas, and now living in California. It also told them that he was changing the vehicles and registration numbers to avoid detection. However, as little seems to have changed in the last 30 years does this mean that at last, local communities are to be involved in making decisions about their futures? I had never seen one before. This was a very hard job physically where we would carry a wicker basket (full of ashes, etc.) It meant that the police had two key surveillance points, one in Wine Alley itself and a second from the high-rise. My paternal grandfather was an engine keeper for the Phoenix Copper Works, and lived on Brighton Street. History [ edit]